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Phil Christman's avatar

I let people call me "progressive" out of laziness but never self-describe that way, for basically these reasons. I really don't know if history is going anywhere! But there is such a thing as goodness.

I do throw the terms "left Christianity" and "Christian leftist" around because to me, that indicates some firm value commitments. Liberte, egalite, fraternite (sorry don't know how to make accents aigu), yes. I don't think that this means alienation and anomie, as conservatives claim, because that liberte is conditioned and limited by the fraternite. But I think that that ultimately means that you have to abolish private ownership of the means of production; otherwise power concentrates and we don't have l, e, or f, we just have very comfortable (for some) feudalism that can be revoked as soon as a few big capital owners are hit with lawsuits/union drives and find themselves gravitating toward cool, based groupchats. (I wrote a whole book saying this but reviewers still act confused about what I mean. The women who run my church liked the book, though, so I'm still calling it a W). There are some versions of liberalism that would go this far; at that point we're just fighting about words, and I don't want to do that. Those liberals are good with me. I just don't think the word generally has that connotation. (With Robinson, who you know I think is the greatest living American writer, I'm continually disappointed by her failure to reckon with the historic and ongoing cruelty of American foreign policy, which policy I think is generally better described and predicted by even crude Marxist analysis--something I'm generally no fan of--than by a model in which we're tragically falling short of, or ineffectively applying, or carelessly forcing on others, a "generous" or "open-handed" national philosophy. Marilynne, I love you, but what about Yemen?!?!?! What about Latin America?!?!?!)

I don't wildly object to "Christian liberal" or "liberal Christianity" except that--maybe this is simply a result of growing up fundie--I immediately imagine that those words mean something like the Presbyterian church in my hometown that had taken most of the miracles out of the version of the creed they recited. I used to look down on these sorts of people; as I grow older I actually marvel at their faith. To say "I don't believe in a *literal* resurrection, but the resurrection is a story about how love is stronger than death, which I do believe": that's incredible. I believe that love is stronger than death because it literally *was*, once, in the person of Jesus, and that that's a clue as to the final reality. If I had to go without that, I just don't know.

Sarah Dahl's avatar

Thanks for writing this: I had a lot of thoughts after reading Stephanie Perdew's piece in the CC but hadn't taken the time to sift through them or really respond. This piece was incredibly helpful.

I'm especially curious about your take on emancipatory movements becoming dated. That feels correct to me, though I'm not entirely sure why -- and it certainly would not be a welcome observation in the self-consciously progressive ex-evangelical churches I know, where everybody is all about our liberation being wrapped up in everyone else's and so on. In fact, I'd go so far to say that in many of these churches, emancipation is pretty much at the heart of what Jesus of Nazareth was about. Sometimes in the Christian liberty sense, but more often in the "free to be fully alive as myself" sense. (This drives me, a closeted Lutheran, absolutely nuts.) These are, like I said, mostly ex-evangelical settings, so there is a lot of evangelistic exhortation to convert everyone to accepting their liberation like we used to accept Jesus into our hearts. (And I say that with deep affection, not snark.)

Anyway: I'll be thinking about this for awhile, and am especially grateful for your reminder about not letting our left hand know what the right is doing and that being part of God's work isn't to step into some kind of humanly discernible path of progress -- that really the only call is to show up in prayer, praise, proclamation, and the same kind of openheartedness to the breadth of human experience that the Incarnation affirms. Disciples aren't greater than their masters, and all that. Thanks!

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